Introduction
Sometimes a member of your team decides to role-play a real tree, standing perfectly still in the fountain and soaking up precious nutrients. Other times they make like a tree and leaf. Just so you know, you're not alone, and Riot is well aware of the issue.
Check out their response to a complain earlier today:
The Complaint:
"I've been playing this game for a few years now, from Silver to Diamond. One of the biggest problems I have with this game is when someone in ranked is AFK from the start. This immediately raises tilt-esque behavior in players because it simply isn't fair.
When this happens we as players are forced to play out the remaining 20 minutes, knowing full well that the game is lost (95% of the time). Not only is it very difficult to win a 4v5, it's even more difficult to convince your team to pick up the pace and try. I'm not gonna lie, 4v5's make me feel defeated from the very start, regardless of the fact that I've won several.
The problem is that one can not simply AFK these games. Doing so result in Leaverbuster getting upset with you, not to mention the countless players that will report you for this (I guess, deservedly?). But once again, the compounding feelings of defeat when this happens affects the rest of your gameplay for the day.
Do you have any ideas or any plans in the works to try and alleviate this? Simple (yet presumptively flawed) plans such as if one person is disconnected for 10 minutes, allow surrendering for 75% of the LP loss."
RiotLyte, (The People's Champion) Response
We agree that starting a game 4v5 is an incredibly frustrating experience, even if it happens rarely. Right now, we're working on the LeaverBuster system which addresses leavers/AFKs more aggressively; however, we do have some work in the pipe to allow players to restart a match if a player fails to connect or is AFK at the start of a match. The leaver/AFK would of course receive leaver/AFK penalties, but the rest of the players in the game can just restart the match.
There's no downsides to this at the moment. Cool, +1 support
ReplyDeleteWhat is this "unlikely to be available for ranked games" nonsense? Well then what is the point of this issue being addressed? Although frustrating, no one really cares about losing a match from an afk in a normal after all is said and done.
ReplyDeleteThe "complaint" is clearly addressing afk's in ranked, because it is unfair to lose LP this way. That is why the suggestion of the 75% LP loss existed. Riot basically dodged the complaint and responded with "ya bro, that sucks, can't help, but maybe sometime this year or next we'll have something like what the league community has been asking for but have it only for normals and not ranked".
Or am i not reading this correctly?
The reason why it's unlikely to work in ranked is because if you duo with someone who's smurfing, if you're losing the game they can just leave the game and you can avoid losing Elo.
ReplyDeleteThat might be so, but you have to admit the way they formatted this article was misleading. They took someone complaining about a popular issue with ranked, put it in a question/answer format, introduced RiotLyte as the "people's champ" and made it seem as if though Riot answered is coming up with a solution.
ReplyDeleteWell, the unlikely to do for ranked bit was more of my opinion piece, but re-reading it they don't explicitly say it'll only be for one and not the other.
ReplyDeleteI see that they also say that it's for the start of the game, so the abuse might be reduced.
yeah but this is about at the start of game AFKs maybe riot can implement a system where if said afk has not come into the game around 3 minutes the game can be disbanded. thus there is no point for a duo to leave the game.
ReplyDeleteThey should do it the same way of Dota 2...
ReplyDeleteYou load the game, then you pick your champion. If Some one leaves the game b4 5 mins, you are free to leave it too. I dunno if this is done for rankeds doe.
I Had 4 AFK's in my first Placement Matches (s3), this ruined the ranked experience for me.
IMO Riot should just sum up the total amount of LP lost by the team, and deduct it from the AFK instead of the teammates. Then, the team wont rage knowing that when they inevitably lose they wont lose anything substantial besides time.
ReplyDeleteThat would just be like demoting the AFK one tier...
ReplyDeleteTrue bronze hell *shudder*
ReplyDeleteWell, I mean, if they like quit or fail to connect, sorry, not my problem.
ReplyDeleteThat seems like too big a punishment, tbh. Also it means that your team simply wont care about winning- they won't lose anything. That makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteOkay maybe set a range for LP lost. I'm thinking no more than 50. The reason this would work is because people wouldn't abuse it with smurf accounts to dodge loses for their friends. Since the smurf gets demoted so rapidly, before long they're bronze 5 and cant help their friend get any higher than Silver due to restriction.
ReplyDeleteHonestly I think they should even go one step further and make restrictions for Bronze 5 as to who they can duo with only bronze tier. This would prevent smurf abuse even more. Like if you abuse this to get to silver...great. But once their in silver they're out of luck boosting and if they're truly lacking in skill they'll drop back down to bronze.
The reason I said sum up the total LP lost in my OP is because of conservation of LP. So that there is no net movement across the population up or down. (Not 100% sure if this is how it works now, but I'm assuming its similar)
Just give base-4 exponentially increasing long bans to people who go AFK. First time 12 hours, then 2 days, 8 days, 32 days etc. If it happens because your internet or your pc don't work properly then you shouldn't be playing the game as you are bothering other people with your problems.
ReplyDeleteI think the easiest thing to do is to save up for a "LOSS FORGIVENESS" the same way you save up for a reroll in ARAM. That way you can not lose LP or have another chance to avoid demotion. This will fix leaver problem and the troll problem.
ReplyDeleteOk, so what about the people who get called bc of family issues or their internet cut out bc of power.... Something like that. Ive been in that position and it sucks
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It is fine when it happens once in a while, but if it happens all the time or to often then there is obviously going to be an issue. If you are having constant power outages or issues you shouldn't be playing ranked. Constant family issues you know will come up, shouldn't be playing ranked.
ReplyDeleteWhen I play League, my family knows to leave me the hell alone. :D
ReplyDeleteIm not talking about ranked, just norm games. And my family still doesnt understand that I cant pause league -_- after ive told them multiple times
ReplyDeleteThats what im saying.
ReplyDeleteBut still a lot of families don't and don't forget their could be more pressing issues at hand.
ReplyDeleteI'm an on call first responder for emergancies at hospitals and I have to afk from games all the time Riot needs to focus on the core issue of the fact that sometimes it happens and just provide a fix without penalties.people who serve the community and save lives should not be punished.
ReplyDeletePretty simple if you have bad connection or some sort of family issues that will arise or work DO US ALL a favor and stay out of Ranked play. Go play normal or bots. And we also need some sort of leveling or unlock system where you are forced to play a certain amount of matches with a champion before you are alowed to use it in ranked. Please no more of "hey guys anyone know how to play braum, 1st time"
ReplyDeleteMeh I'd assume there would be escalating punishments based on how often you leave games due to "pressing issues". If you leave games regularly due to these issues then you should be asking yourself if you should be playing ranked. Either way, I'd be happy for these changes. I have left a few ranked games due to rushing family to the hospital or having to go help someone in an emergency. I'd happily take a decent punishment for those few times..if it means there will be less people doing it to me.
ReplyDeleteWell right I believe every player should be able to set aside an hour or so for a reasonable ranked match I think escalating punishment is actually good. Just not an immediate harsh one for the first time.
ReplyDeleteAn unlock system for ranked doesn't seem like an amazing idea... if you use a champ for the first time in ranked then you're a moron and have without any real reason for doing so significantly reduced your chances of victory. But honestly, it makes basically no effect in the grand scheme of things. It would also mean that you would need to "unlock" a lot of champions to be able to play ranked effectively, let's not even go into if you want to be able to trade with people for their best champions...
ReplyDeleteThe only problem is I have gotten disconnected 3 times, I rush to try and re-enter the game, and after like a 10 minute laod time (when it normally only takes 2 minutes max) and I finally get in and... "Leaverbuster: You have been disconnected from this game for AFK for 10 minutes or more" so then it disconnects me again and then i have to once again reconnect, this time actually letting me in in around 2 minutes and letting me play, all the while wasting valuable time. the three times its happened I get dropped around the 10 minute mark, and by the time I finally get back in the games for the second time its over and we've lost! All because it cannot discern between a real AFK'er and someones who has disconnected! heck, maybe its just me, has anyone else had this problem? :(
ReplyDeleteOh so your saying its completely alright to waste 20-40 minutes of your life and 15-25 LP and probably your series? Use your fucking brain and stay out of ranked if you are lagging.
ReplyDeleteDEN TOO BAD SUCK IT
ReplyDeleteYou know that thing in your head that looks like a brain?(which is hopefully a brain). Use it and fuck off ranked if your lagging.
ReplyDeleteThat's so great
ReplyDeleteUhhhh dont fucking punish 4 other people because you're e moron and you decide to multitask at work.... If you have something else to do, DO IT! If you wanna play concentrate on the game only..............
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